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Alpha 3 is very confusing in canon because some endings contradict future stuff like E.Honda’s and Chun-Li’s endings.

While some had to have happened, like Karin and Zangief.

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No way Capcom would let their most popular SF villain stay dead.

He's a money maker.

Can't wait for Balrog and Vega.

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It's kind of a self-fulfilling thing, because the reason he's the most popular villain is in part because Capcom keeps putting him in everything.

It's the same with most of the SF 2 & World Warriors cast. They're famous nowadays as the staple characters of the series because Capcom uses them almost exclusively. It's only really starting to get pushback now.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 27th 2024 at 5:05:02 AM

I mean, they had a chance with Gill to supplant Bison as the Big Bad twice and that didn't work out.

Really didn't help there wasn't a kind of story mode about the Society and Gill as the villains.

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@KnownUnknown: I doubt all of Alpha 3's endings are canon, considering one of them involved Dee Jay of all people vaporizing Bison just by... attacking him really really hard. If that was canon then wow, imagine how lucky Bison is that Dee Jay's too focused on his music career to come for him. :V

fateslay: If you ask me, I think Capcom has been building up to a Juri 'redemption arc' for some time, turning her into more of an Anti-Hero kind of figure, and introducing AKI as an even more overtly villainous counterpart to her just highlights it.

At least I hope that was the intention, because otherwise to me AKI just comes off as 'Juri 2', except with the 'added bonus' of her borderline-incestuous relationship with FANG, who she outright admits was like a father to her. Still feel like that was kinda unnecessary.

I've often wondered just how much of SFIII's commercial failure had to do with the new cast of characters, especially considering that other games did the whole new cast-after-a-timeskip thing (like Tekken 3 and Garou: Mark of the Wolves), and those didn't experience nearly the same level of backlash. So what was special about III? Was it literally just people upset about the graphics? :V

Edited by PresidentStalkeyes on Jun 27th 2024 at 1:11:19 PM

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perhaps it will be a plot twist with Aki betraying fang and turning good and juri becoming more crazy than she was already

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Like, okay in Alpha 3, we know that Zangief met R.Mika in that ending and it had to have happened since V has them as mentor and protege, while Shadaloo makes it a point to destroy Karin's satellites in V.

So at the bare minimum, those two had to have been involved in the climax.

Then there's Chun-Li's ending where it establishes her as the one who rescues Cammy and the other dolls from Bison, which while a nice thought, contradicts SF 2.

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I think AKI is kind of Juri 2.

Like, initially Juri was introduced as effectively AKI's character role in the story, the villain organizations' Dark Action Chick with a sad*stic and vaguely sultry streak, a similar personality, color scheme, etc.

But over time Juri started being written as more a neutral Wild Card and they started playing up the Japanese delinquent archetype tropes with her instead, which left her old character slot open.

@Known Unknown: I doubt all of Alpha 3's endings are canon, considering one of them involved Dee Jay of all people vaporizing Bison just by... attacking him really really hard.

Lol, okay. Maybe not.

But I could swear one of the Alpha games was like that, with all the endings being canon. Am I just remembering wrong?

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 27th 2024 at 5:13:22 AM

Tekken did it early in its lifespan and coincidently the third game is the most popular by far. SFIII was even meant to be the third SF game but it happened and Ryu and Ken were just slapped on last minute.

It was a bold move but it kinda fell flat when most of the cast is unrecognizable and not even that much new generation. You mean to tell me Oro is new generation? Or that Necro is meant to replace Blanka AND Dhalsim? Lol nice try.

Nowadays we look into 3 more fondly, but it wouldn't be like that if 3rd strike wasn't a thing

Alpha 2 with the exception of Bison i think (that ending more or less happens during Alpha 3)

Edited by fasoman1996 on Jun 27th 2024 at 9:16:36 AM

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No, I think you mean SFIV where all the endings except for maybe Evil Ryu and Oni are canon.

Since the explanation for why everyone fights Seth is that Bison hijacked the plot and after killing Seth, sets all the duplicates against everyone else.

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It's the same with most of the SF 2 & World Warriors cast. They're famous nowadays as the staple characters of the series because Capcom uses them almost exclusively.

But they did try to introduce a mostly new cast in Street Fighter 3, but that didn't go over well.

Thus why they keep bringing back the SF 2 warriors.

Poor Street Fighter 1 cast. :P

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Yeah, they made one game with a new cast over twenty years ago that didn't sell well (but turned out to be their most popular title overall) and ever since they've been deathly afraid of ever doing it again even as people point out that they're at this point going too far in the opposite direction.

There's a reason they're doing it, sure. But it's not a very good reason.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 27th 2024 at 11:47:49 AM

I might also be corporate mandate. "These characters are the most recognizable and marketable: include them in the sequel so it will appeal to our established customers."

Granted, I don't get that impression from the interviews we got with the team, who seem to be mostly laid back fans doing the game they like. But in the world of triple A video games, marketing will always be a factor.

Maybe it was only a matter of base roster vs DLC, in this case. "Alright, we'll put Bison in, but not in the base game. Let's make him the spearhead of a DLC season to create hype post-release (and make people buy the DLC)."

I’m just glad I get to use Bison. Having a blast using him.

And as a long time fan, been playing as a kid since Ultra Steet Fighter IV, seeing my avatar use Psycho Crusher has me giddy beyond words.

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I don't if anyone here had seen Thorgi's Arcade docs for the Street Fighter sbut when he got to Street Fighter 3 he laid the reason why SF 3 didn't do well at 1st:

1. the very 1st version was just called 3, not Street Fighter 3 just three spell out with Ryu on itm

2. Way too many capcom Fighters releases at once in 96 and 97.

3. The 1st version was very bad due not having a lot of people with no experience in fighting game development or game development.

4. Ironically it have a new cast help it stand out at the time to due the too many capcom Fighters.

I highly recommend listening/watching the doc because it was amazing that 3 even got to 3rd strike with these issues. I am sure someone probably posted it in the general Street Fighter thread too.

https://youtu.be/sEyiI6w3Zuk?si=SxcFqion7kpeX4Fe

That too.

Edited by chartoc on Jun 28th 2024 at 6:11:36 AM

Capcom did indeed flood the market w/ fighting games between 1996 to 1998 w/ JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Darkstalkers, Star Gladiators, Red Earth, Rival Schools, etc and that's not counting other companies' fighting games especially all the Mortal Kombat Klones (and damn was there a LOT of MK Klones). That aside, Street Fighter 3 is a late bloomer in that it hit its stride in 3rd Strike.

Edited by KRider on Jun 28th 2024 at 3:29:13 AM

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It was the one-two punch of coming out at a time where 3D was everyone's favorite toy to play with and sprite games were losing interest. The other was completely dropping 98% of a cast they had drilled into everyone's heads for years after the 100 rereleases of Street Fighter 2.

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Do people like Twelve? I heard they are popular, which is insane to me cause i've heard twelve is a huge meme Low-Tier Letdown

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